I've read enough threads to notice that your comments are going to be absent any true discourse.

it is to trash HRC, that is plain from the diary.  Now if you all have a change of heart and decide to let the voters decide, and stop your nonsense bashing and hate, and actually focus on McCain, that would be one thing.

But you obamatrons have not proven your muster there. Great lines against HRC, great lies about her service, great lines supporting Obama's attack on democrats, but nothing against McCain

So if you get your rocks off bashing HRC, go where  you have that support.  Otherwise stop whining and put up something of substance here.

You mean as in "I hope I can get health care with Obama" as opposed to "I know I will get health care with Clinton" ?

Yeah, that's the way to go.

Did you miss "the strike"?

Turnabout may be fair play, but I think 5 diaries on the same subject is a bit excessive, especially when it's driven by recs from people who don't bother posting.

It's an empowerment thing :)

I've been feeling very bitter today.

you know damn well that he didn't say Reagan was great. He said that Reagan was more effective in changing the political landscape to benefit his side than Bill Clinton was and I would imagine that most people on this site would agree.

Interesting accusation, but difficult to assess without further information. Can you link some sources and/or give some examples?

BTW, I support Obama, I don't think he's been as squeaky-clean as I wish he had been in his campaigning (recent example--making fun of HRC in a duck blind, saying she thinks she's Annie Oakley, etc.). But--what did his campaign say about the sniper stuff? What did his campaign say about Mark Penn in Colombia? By contrast, how long did it take HRC to get on the air, framing Obama's comments in SF in the most negative light? How long did it take her to publicly jab him on Wright (longer than normal, I'll grant you, but she got there).

So yeah, both have gone negative. But my perception is that HRC has gone wayyyy more negative, much more consistently.

hum, an Obama 'supporter' no doubt LOL!

MyDD has been taken over by the Hillary campaign political machine lead by alegre mouthing campaign talking points and spinning like an old pro. This used to be a great blog, very informative, but now its a mechanical spin machine that has lost touch with the grass roots and real human beings.

You're right; let's split the supers 50/50.  That way neither side can be said to have benefited from them.

I never said the Blogosphere was all that, because it's only a single tool in the arsenal. It takes a lot of tools to beat the Establishment Candidate, which is Hillary Clinton. And he is, in fact, beating her, by a good amount. I'm not entirely sure why you guys are so super-impressed by the fact that she's still technically in the race, considering that she's been preparing for this since 2000 and that she's had many of these resources at her disposal since 1992. She hired the best (supposedly) consultants money could buy, and has had the ear, although perhaps not the sympathy, of the media from day one.

The whole nation knows about Rev. Wright, and the "bitter" remark is all over the media, but Obama is still beating Clinton by 10 points nationally according to Gallup. As a person who decided for Obama the day after election day, November 2006, I can't help but let my pride show every now and then. I was right. And despite the fact that I argued against it, this very diary now sits atop the MyDD rec list - which means it takes a lot less effort for an Obama diary to get there than I thought. Which reinforces my point, that Obama supporters have the numbers to squeeze out the MyDD rec list if we wanted to organize the way Hillary supporters do to control the rec list here.

Clinton supporters can complain about the DKos rec list all they want, but at least diaries there get rec listed because they are genuinely well-received by their audience. No one is organizing behind the scenes to try to ensure a rec list takeover of the site, because as soon as Edwards dropped out, the progressive blogosphere shifted largely to Obama. In other words, the rec list was reflecting the audience, not the other way around. All the attacks on DKos here stem from one thing only - jealousy.

oh, aghast!!  really?  I am sure you were just as aghast at Obama who slams the BC presidency every chance he gets and uses GOP talking points against Hillary every chance he gets.

Obama has stooped lower than anyone I know of in the democratic party.

"but his answer clearly went beyond who is voting for him into the more general realm of why working class voters go against their own interests."

no it wasn't.  I read the same transcript as you did.

he did not mention the classic Thomas Frank Kansas argument.  He was stating why rural voters weren't going to vote for him, a black man (yep, he stated it, not me) and he somehow mangled the classic argument into rural voters in their bitterness, cling to religion & guns.

come on.

read the FULL transcript as is.  Obama must have not had his teleprompter that night, because for a man who believes that "words do matter", he totally dropped the ball.

It doesn't matter if liberals understand what he meant.  If you have to explain it to moderates, independents, republicans, and hand them a copy of Thomas Frank's novel, then I'd say Obama has major problems with his SF statement.

Here's the problem - the anti-Obama stories are recced by people who don't post in them.  If they say it's not coordinated; that's it's not what I think - namely - that people announce their posts over at hillsbloggers and come here and rec posts en masse than I'm wrong.

Regardless, the pro-Obama posts are filled with people commenting who DO NOT RECOMMEND the posting.  We post but don't rec.  They rec but don't post.

and again, do you hate hate HATE the line of attack that Obama against one of our own?  It is shameful and inexcusable that Obama doesn't even hesitate to slam BC's presidency whenever he can.

It is shameful that Obama has pulled out the Republican playbook from the 1990's & used it against Hillary.

or perhaps you don't really remember the 1990's?  The fact that you are SO one sided with this and really, this primary season is MILD (despite the faked outrage), makes me wonder if this is the first election that you really paid attention to.